Eastern American Geography Guiding the Settlement of the Hays’ in America

A map of the 18 major river basins in the lower 48 states created by Imgur user Fejetlenfej , a geographer and GIS analyst. https://imgur.com/gallery/WaEbi

To understand why people, first the natives then the Europeans, moved and settled where they did in Eastern America we need to understand a little bit about the geography of America from the Mississippis River Basin and east of the Mississippi River, especially the mountains and rivers which directed them.

The Appalachian Mountain Range is a series of Mountain Ranges, Plateaus, and Ridges which extends about 2000 miles southwest from Brunswick in Canada to East Tennessee and Northern Alabama.  It is divided into 3 Regions; North (Newfoundland to The Berkshires in MA and CT), Central (Hudson River Valley to New River [Tributary to Great Kanawha] in NC, VA, WV), and Southern (Blue Ridge Mountains and Cumberland Plateau) and provided a geographical divide  between the eastern seaboard and the midwest region.  The Adirondack Mountains are distinct from the Catskill Mountains and are not part of the Appalachian Range although their position impacts the diaspora.  

From: https://www.chegg.com/flashcards/us-capitals-states-and-physical-features-62553e73-bdc9-42dd-82a2-c283e4401605/deck

The Pleistocene Age ended about 11,700 years ago with the end of the last ice age.  The ice had covered almost all of Canada and parts of the Northern U.S.  The end of the ice age opened up present day Great Britain to settlement by humans and at the same time closed off the Americas from further migration of people by foot across Beringea and it formed the present oceans.  In North America it resulted in the Great Lakes and the course of the Ohio River.  It scoured out the Finger Lakes in NY and others in many states and determined the courses of the river systems.

The rivers and lakes were the roads of the undeveloped country and the natives had established many trails and portages which connected them.  When the Europeans first arrived by ocean it was first into the bay and then up the larger Rivers, tidal straights actually, that the Europeans sailed.  When Europeans first settled it was first along the bays, then the rivers, and finally they used the established trails as they moved inland.  As north America had no large pack animal prior to European introduction of the horse, movement of goods was by water or foot with larger waterbodies allowing movement of larger qualities of goods.  When the French, Dutch, English, and Spanish vied for control of eastern North America it was along the same paths that the natives used to wage tribal wars against one another or to trade or access hunting lands and fishing areas.

The Great Lakes (Superior, Michigan, Huron, Erie, and Ontario) are a series of interconnected fresh water lakes  which comprise about 84% of North Americas fresh water.  Stretching from Ontario, Canada and Minnesota in the U.S. to Quebec, Canada and New York in the U.S they then connect to the Atlantic Ocean via the St. Lawrence River from lake Ontario flowing northeast into the Gulf of St. Lawrence in New Brunswick Canada. Tributaries feeding into this form the Great Lakes Basin.

From http://extension.msstate.edu/sites/default/files/publication-images/P3082/Figure_1.jpg, Mississippi State University Extension

The Atlantic Seaboard Basin consists of river watersheds; Susquehanna, Hudson, Savannah, Delaware, Yadkin, and Potomac among other smaller ones.  The Susquehanna Basin starts at Otsego Lake which feeds the North Branch of the Susquehanna in NY flowing southwest and the West Branch in PA flowing east, then south and southeast through PA to MD where it empties into the Chesapeake Bay.

From https://www.weather.gov/, National Weather Service

The Delaware Basin starts on the west side of the Catskill Mountains at the East Branch in Delaware County, NY and the West Branch in Schoharie County, NY flowing southeast and combined flowing south traveling through NJ, PA (Philadelphia) and DE. 

From https://www.weather.gov/, National Weather Service

The Yadkin-Pee Dee River Basin has headwaters at the Appalachian ridge in in VA and the main branch in NC flowing east and then south through NC and SC entering the Winyuh Bay and then the Atlantic.  The Savanah Basin is the Tugalo and Chatooga Rivers which form to make the Savannah River.  It flows southeast and is much of the border between SC and GA draining into the Atlantic Ocean.  

The Potomac Basin starts on the North Branch in MD (a small part in WV) flowing east and the South Branch flowing northeast with headwaters in VA and the River mostly in WV, when the branches combine they flow southeast into the Chesapeake Bay in MD, DC and VA. The Shenandoah River originates on 2 forks in WV and VA combining and running northeast and it is a tributary of the Potomac at Harpers Ferry, WV. 

From https://www.weather.gov/, National Weather Service

The Hudson River Basin starts in the Adirondack Mountains and flows south then east then south again.  It is met just north of Troy, NY by the Mohawk River.  The Schoharie Creek originates in the Catskill Mountains and flows north to feed the Mohawk River.  The Mohawk River originates on the west side of the Adirondack Mountains and flows east-southeast to the Hudson River.   At Troy NY the Hudson River becomes a tidal estuary flowing south to Manhattan.

Reproduced from a post on Reddit.com, unknown original source.

The Gulf of Mexico Basin is fed by the Rio Grande and Mississippi River Watershed.  The Mississippi River watershed extends from the Rocky Mountains in the West to the Great Lakes Basin and all the area west of the Appalachian Mountains.  It includes the Ohio River on its eastern side and the Missouri River on the west.  The Ohio River starts at the confluence of the Allegheny and Monongahela Rivers in Pittsburg and flows west-southwest to the Mississippi River.  The Ohio River is fed by the Tennessee and Cumberland Rivers near the confluence of the Mississippi River.  The Mississippi Basin covers 32 U.S. states and 2 Canadian provinces encompassing over 1.1 million square miles traveling from Canada to the Gulf of Mexico in New Orleans.

The Hays from Ulster entered PA by the Delaware Bay in PA, most likely Philadelphia.  From there they settled in Derry PA.  Migration continued down the Shenandoah River Valley to Roanoke, VA.  Migrations of the Hays’ from there continued along the valley but was stopped by the Appalachian Ridge and the control of the land by natives.  Here the migration turned into the Yadkin River Valley until such time as land began to open in TN.  The Watauga settlement was started as exploration through the Cumberland Gap as did explorations of TN and KY and Hays’ would settle in both East TN, middle TN, and KY before migrating further west from there.  There were Hays’ at the Cumberland Settlement, the first settlement of Nashville.  My Hays line went from Augusta, VA to Greene, TN (near the Watauga Settlement and Knoxville).  There was a Hays, a son in law, with Daniel Boone when he explored and settled KY.  

New York State was a central point in the navigation of the east.  The Hudson River was tidal to North of Albany and thus navigable by larger ships and could be followed further north, then overland to Lake George north to portage to Lake Champlain and again on foot to access the St. Lawrence River and present day Quebec and Montreal.  To travel west from Albany one would overland to bypass the Cohoes Falls to present day Schenectady and access the Mohawk River which provided access west of the Appalachian Range. A short portage to to Oneida Lake, Oneida River and the Oswego River brings one to Lake Ontario and access to inland America on the lakes.

From https://geology.com/state-map/maps/new-york-rivers-map.gif

The Schoharie Creek is a tributary to the Mohawk River with headwaters in the Catskill Mountains flowing north.   This provides access to the Delaware River headwaters as both waters are in Schoharie County in NY.  Or one could travel further west to the headwaters of the Susquehanna River.  Inversely, from Chesapeake Bay or Delaware Bay one could follow that river to the Schoharie Creek, the Mohawk River, and the Oneida Lake route to the Great Lakes.

The Ohio River with headwaters in western PA, and a short distance from Lake Erie, flows through the eastern U.S. meeting the Mississippi River North of TN.  The Cumberland River flows from KY into middle TN (Nashville) turning northwest into KY to meet the Ohio River upstream of the confluence with the Mississippi River.  The Tennessee River flows through Eastern TN (Knoxville) southwest into northern Alabama then northeast back into western TN then KY meeting the Ohio River in between the Cumberland River and the Mississippi River.  The Watauga River is a tributary to the South Holiston River and the Tennessee River entering near Knoxville. All these rivers are relevant as we look at the Hays diaspora across America.

from https://www.tennesseeriverkeeper.org/rivermaps

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A Patrick Hays Tree by Mary Sheffield Wolz

This web site is starting to show up on searches for Patrick Hays and one of the interesting parts of doing the site is the extended cousins that I get to correspond with. Mary’s brother had found the site and emailed me and when I asked about their tree he forwarded these Family Group sheets with notes which I post, graciously provided by Mary Sheffield Wolz. The line is Patrick 1705-1790, Samuel 1728-1805, James 1758-1830, Samuel 1786-1874, James S. 1822-1860, Samuel E. 1855-1933, James T. 1879-1965 (Mary’s grandfather). Thanks to Mary for sharing and hopefully helping out a fellow Hays relative in their search for their roots.

Patrick Hays 1705-1790

Samuel Hays b. 1728 Dauphin, PA d. 1805 Bowling Green, KY. m. Elizabeth Priscilla Bradford b. Augusta, VA d 1810 Bowling Green, KY. Family Group chart missing in email.

James Hays 1758-1830
Samuel Hays 1786-1874
James Samuel Hays 1822-1860
Samuel Elgin Hays
James Thomas Hays 1879-1965

Cousins updates (2) and an unrelated to (Patrick Hays-PA but with Hays ancestors) contact

1. Hey Bro, we’re cousins.

A close family friend (so close we call each other Brother) contacted me with the news that we are cousins (by marriage).  It turns out his wife was doing genealogical research and was reviewing 5th to 8th cousins on Ancestry.com when she came across my photo (Ancestry offers autosomal DNA and matches members with their possible cousins).  We shared a 4th Great Grandfather on my fathers maternal line, Joseph Price 1769-1834.  I’m sure I’ll be introduced as “BroCus” at any gatherings as an opening to discussing genealogy research in the family.  It’s a small world after all.

This got me to thinking about how American was I?  So I went back to my own family tree using the maternal name that married into my Hays line following their paternal lines.  Peoples trees on Ancestry trace my Grandmothers Price line back to Daniel Price born 1725 in Henrico, VA. Price is a welsh name and is the 91st most common name (out of 100) in the US (2020).  Great Grandmother Mary Ellen Wilcox married Alexander Hays in TX and her line traces back to George Wilcox born 1718 in VA.  Wilcox is Scottish or English in origin, from medieval English.  By the time America was settled most surnames had been Anglicised (even Irish and Scottish Gaelic names). 

My 2nd Great Grandmother Harriet Atwood Walker married William A. Hays in Greene, TN and her line traces back to Thomas Walker born 1650 in Westmoreland, VA. Walker, like Wilcox is the Anglicised form from Scotland or England. 3rd Great Grandmother Sarah W. Rodgers (b. 1808) married George Hays in Greene, TN and her line goes back to one generation to Robert Rodgers with no information available.  Rodgers is also Anglicised English or Scottish, this spelling variation more common in Scotland.  4th Great Grandmother Abigail Cravens married William Hays in either Rockbridge, VA or Greene, TN. It traces back to Robert Cravens born 1733 in Lewes, Sussex Co., DE.  Cravens is of English origin.  From William A. Hays back my Hays line were Presbyterian and appear to be active in church so it is safe to assume the spouses were also Presbyterian and most likely their families Presbyterian migrants from Ulster, Scotland, or England settling in proximity to my hays line (eventually).

You can follow our diaspora of Hays pioneers as Ancestry has an interactive map based on the census which shows in 1840 NY, PA, OH, and TN led the country with between 114-226 Hays family names with OH 1st which had 226 Hays’ which was 14% of us in the US. The name shows in all the settled areas of the U.S. that time.  By 1920 PA, OH, IN, IL, MO, KY, TN, GA, AL, MS, AR, OK, and TX all had between 301-600 Hays families but every state in the U.S. had Hays families in it.  There were 600 Hays families in #1 KY, 7% of all the recorded Hays in the country.  States around this cluster and CA, OR, and WA came in second 101-300, the midwest and New England coming in last at 1-100.  The 2010 census has “Hays” name ranked at 1021 with 34,191 records (Smith, Johnson, Williams, Jones, and Brown are the top 5) and out of each 100,000 people we are 11.59% of the population. Hayes is in 127th place and Hay ranks 2005 and it is unknown how many of these are Ulster Scot Presbyterian with a changed spelling (See Hays spellings).  

Fair use from Ancestry.com, Hays diaspora 1840 in the U.S.A.

It was my father who broke the line of Hays men marrying women with pre-Revolutionary War Colonial roots.  But this was understandable as it was his generation which finalized the Hays’ generational moves west when he landed in CA with the other “Oakies” in the 1930’s.  Like many other Hays’ he ran out of land to continue migrating west.  (although service in the Pacific theatre in WWII, Korea [war and after], and Vietnam leave the possibility the DNA continued to migrate west?). Military service brought him back east to NY where he married my mother, a 3rd generation German immigrant to this state on her paternal line, 2nd on her maternal her mother arriving as a baby, settling in VT and upstate NY.  Some of his children and grand children stayed in NY and as is the custom in America now some moved about the country following adventure, a spouse, or work. 

Note on name as ancestry alone. The 2010 census shows about 70% of U.S.A. “Hayes” identifying as White – non hispanic, 85% of Hay, and 91% of Hays ruling out many as immigrants from Scotland to Ulster to America excepting acknowledged intermarriage. Also the spelling of Hays was historically phonetic, especially in those who could not write (pre-Presbyterian education in the peasant class in Great Britain prior to 1600 and in rural America west of the Mississippi – both my Grandfather and Great Grandfather for example) and so they made their mark and another spelled based upon how it sounded. proper genealogy research requires name matching (including similar spelling), DNA, religion, and other historical records matching. Don’t cheap out, do the research.

2. Chickasaw Nation

RS contacted me after finding the AmericanMan web site.  His mother was a Hays and he traced her line back to Patrick Hays in PA and he’s actually been to the gravesite in Derry, PA (on my bucket list).  He’s a citizen of the Chickasaw Nation (fathers side) and also a member of the Love County Historical Society and so I got a lot of information on Burneyville, Love, OK. which is where my Great Grandfather, Robert Alexander Hays migrated to with his wife Mary. Robert Alexander is buried in the Burneyville Cemetery.  I have no information on why they migrated to Chickasaw Territory to farm. The 1900 census shows Township 7, Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory with Mary as the head of household with 8 children, widowed the year prior. I addressed the question of Indian ancestry but will need to do site investigations to see why the couple, he from Green, TN and she from Equality, Miller, MO. and who were married in TX, settled in OK. 

The 1910 census shows Mary as head of household with my Grandfather, Thomas Jefferson Hays 18, and 3 younger sisters in Hickory, Love, OK. By 1920 my Grandfather was listed as head of household, married with a one year old child and Mary and his sister, Lula R. 24 residing in Justice Precinct 5 Cooke, TX. Thomas J. had children born in order; Illinois Bend, Montague, TX; Plainview , Hale, TX, Illinois Bend, Montague, TX; Plainview, Hale, TX; and Cyril, OK, the last being my father who was a baby when his father died.   The 1930 census shows my fathers family in Olton, Lamb, TX and in 1940 he was in Plainview, TX again but some time in between he lived with his uncle Jess Price in Chandler, Commanche, OK.  

RS advised that the Burneyville Cemetery is quite large but Burneyville itself is almost a ghost town.  The Love County Historical Society is in the Pioneer Museum in Marietta, OK (Love County seat).  It’s run by volunteers so hopefully it’s still open when the lockdowns are lifted as I would greatly like to visit it and do research.  His parents met in TX so the connection of Hays to Burneyville was of interest to him.  I’ll check and see if he has his Hays family tree and if he’ll share it and approves its posting on this site.

Calgary, Canada

MT in Calgary, Canada contacted me after reviewing AmericanMan.org.  He’s an R1a (our Hays are R1B) but he has many Hays in his lineage and was wondering if I came across any R1a Hays’ in my searches for the name which I haven’t.  R1 split into R1a and R1b around the last ice age.  My Hays line is R1b1a2 with the R-M269 marker which is the most common marker from Europe and dominated in the Yamnaya Culture 3500 BCE.  It also includes R-M343 which migrated from Kazakstan across Unkraine, Romania, the Italian Alps and into France. The R1 (R-M420) migrated from Kazakstan into Russia and then Belarus.  The Hay and Hayes DNA Projects reveals not only R1’s with a Hay derived name but many others, although the bulk of Hays’, over 75% of the 275 in the Hay project, appear to be R1b and most of them with the R-M269 marker. 

Note: We concurred that the education of people in North America is greatly lacking. Not only are American’s taught virtually NOTHING about Canadian History and Canadians taught virtually NOTHING about U.S History, neither country properly teaches their own history which we discovered in our genealogy research. I’ll add to this the history of Mexico and the U.S. I suggest everyone get on internetrchive.com and download history books, now public domain and many digitalized or available for a digitalized free borrow from a library from written in the time you are researching or shortly thereafter. And remember to send them a tax deductible donation as they are in INVALUABLE resource to truth and history.

Hays Ancestors: Mans east and west diaspora and the Hays migration to Scotland.

Although he didn’t know it, DNA Adam in Africa 60,000 years ago was a Hays.  He’s actually related to the vast majority of the people alive today so he has a pretty long list of surnames.  They were stone age hunter-gatherers when 60,000 years ago a DNA Adam son, a Hays male ancestor, started to migrate north out of Africa.  50,000 years ago the Hays cousins, the C Haplogroup, went west out of Africa over the tip of India and up the Asian coast to North America, the first settlers to that continent. When the Hays sons reached Asia 35,000 years ago, around present day Uzbekistan, cousins in Haplogroup Q went west northwest while the Hays, in the R Haplogroup, continued north.  Both The Hays R Haplogroup and cousins Q Haplogroup were still hunter-gatherer societies, dependent on climate and the movement of large game animals, about 11,000 years ago when Q went into North America at present day Alaska .  

The Hays R Haplogroup first split into R1 and R2 (some estimate about 25,000 years ago) and then the R1 split into R1a and R1b (some estimate about 18,500 years ago), with R1b being my (and many others) Hays line.  The R1b Hays continued to migrate west into Europe.  The climate at the time was much cooler than now due to the last Ice Age with glaciers that grew and receded back and forth from 110,000 to 12,500 years ago. In Scotland 24,000 years ago the ice was over a mile thick and Britain was connected to mainland Europe due to reduced sea levels from the glacier and migrations of people by foot in and out and in could occur.  Reduced sea levels due to glaciation opened up the Bering Land Bridge, Beringia, between present day Siberia and Alaska and about 12,000 to 15,000 years ago people began to migrate in and out of North America.

Glaciers and climate continued to impact movement of people.  The Q Haplogroup crossed into North America and continued to migrate south and east settling North and South America.  The Hays R1b Haplogroup continued further west into Europe.  As warming occurred 12,000 years ago the glaciers began to melt and recede and ocean levels began to rise.  By 6000 years ago the British Isles were separate from mainland Europe by the English Channel and Beringia was under water.  

The flooding of Beringia separated North America from Asia and migrations into North America stopped, but the Q Haplogroup continued their migration south and east across 2 continents.   90% of American Indians carry the Q Haplogroup.  As evidence of the America’s being separated from Asia and Europe, canines were domesticated from grey wolves by the hunter-gatherers some 14,000 years ago.  Travelers over Beringia brought dogs to North America and DNA studies have shown they were related to dogs in Siberia, but were distinct from European dog lines.  Among other herd animals, ancient horses originally from North America died out in North America but they continued in Asia.  North and South American civilizations remained isolated from the civilizations of Eurasia and did not benefit from any advances in Eurasia culture and developed on their own.

About 9000 years ago farming was developed in the fertile crescent in Mesopotamia (present day middle east).  Cereal crops (wheat and barley), lentils, peas and chickpeas were cultivated for food and flax was grown for oil.  Goats and sheep were domesticated as were chickens and pigs in China and cattle in the Near East.  Farming and pastoralism created a more sedentary lifestyle but successive generations would require more land in temperate zones to farm and graze on.  Stone age tools were improved on and pottery making developed to store grains and seeds.  

Farming increased birth rates as children were weaned earlier onto a grain diet (mush).  Villages and town centers (tribes and clans) would develop for social gathering, government, and religious activities and as a gathering point for common defense against raiding.  Increased populations increased the need for more land to farm and thus encouraged migration.  Genetic diversity within a village would be maintained by marriages between two villages.  This would build alliances and help prevent tribal and regional conflict. Farming would migrate west into Europe, just as the R1b Haplogroup and the Hays did. 

About 6000 years ago (4000 BCE) horses were domesticated on the Western Asian Steppes.   Mankind emerged from the Stone Age and into the Bronze Age about 3000 BCE.  Wheeled vehicles, including war chariots, and metal weapons and tools were developed (the Yamnaya Culture).  Advances in the tools of war and the tools of agriculture occurred as societies moved from the Bronze Age into the Iron Age.  These “Metal Age Invaders” moved into Europe and mixed with the European Farming Cultures.  Haplogroup R1b and subclade M269 were common in all of western Europe with 110 million men carrying the M269 marker today.  

Allistair Moffat in “The Scots: A Genetic Journey” explains that the migration of the M269 subclade corresponds to the advancement of farming.  Seeds of founder crops, domesticated animals in tow, and farming knowledge being necessary for the advancement of farming, he believes that the advance of farming was concurrent with the migration of men and not only the migration of knowledge by itself.  He believes that the explosion of the M269 marker which coincides with the development of farming across Europe was by those who moved and took a local as a wife.  The larger farm families and the need for new lands for sons to farm would seem to support this theory.  

About 800 BCE the Hays and the R1b Haplogroup, M269 subclade would be in the Italian Alps (part of the Halstatt Culture 800-450 BCE) with migration continuing into central and western Europe (the La Tene Culture 450-1 BCE).  The Iron Age started about 1200 BCE and in Europe about 700 BCE.  Iron improved farm implements greatly.  The development of steel from iron as we approached the Common Era (CE) greatly improved war implements, both weapons and defensive armor and shields.  

Halstatt Culture and La Tene Culture – Source Wikipedia.org used under fair use doctrine.

The Halstatt Culture were Celtic, speaking a Proto-Celtic language, and they had no written records.  They had a societal hierarchy of slaves, soldiers, farmers, and craftsmen under a Chieftain who ruled from fortifications on top of a mound.  There was a hierarchy of Chiefs and Kings above them.  Horses, wagons and chariots were used in war with soldiers armed with sword, spear, and wearing body armor.  Iron ploughs improved agricultural production and the tribes traded goods as far away as Greece and China.  The Halstatt Culture evolved into the La Tene Culture.  

The Hays line continued their migration west into Normandy and from there came into Scotland with the Norman Conquest.  The M269 subclade occurs in 70% of Scottish Men, including the Hays.  For 800 years the Hays stayed in the Scottish Lowlands. Persecution for their Presbyterian Religion and their Scottish Ancestry fostered one final move westward in the 1600’s into Northern Ireland for about 2 generations.  Here they would again suffer persecution and want of necessities and so they looked to again migrate west over the Atlantic Ocean, a risky adventure, but one which might provide liberty of conscious and opportunity for them and their children.  

Little did they know that the travel west to America would put them face to face with the Haplogroup Q cousins that decided east over west 35,000 years ago.  And that the landing on the East coast of North America was only the beginning of another migration west, this one across America, pioneers, farmers, and soldiers, on a 200 year journey which won’t end until the Pacific Ocean is reached. 

Oh Mother Dear, a 1945 WW II soldiers poem home

Photo: Easter early 1930’s Olton, TX with Ruth (Price) Hays, by age Ora Lee, William Wayne, Vida Lou, R. Della, and James Henry Hays.

The dust bowl and a hard farm life and the great depression and then the war started, December 7, 1941, with a day of infamy.  The war started for Dad (James Henry Hays) when he was just 18, a boy by today’s standards, in April of 1943 when he was sent to infantry training.  Young men had no choice “we can fight them over there or fight them here”.  “There” was the better option, trading military deaths to save civilian deaths, son’s, brothers, and fathers sacrificing to keep their families safe.  

Sent to the 127th Infantry, 32nd Red Arrow Brigade in the Pacific Campaign, for the next 2+ years he fought his way across New Guinea, Leyte, and Luzon, often in hand to hand combat, and eventually found himself with the occupation forces after Japan formally surrendered September 2, 1945, among the first American Troops to occupy Japan.  

After 2 years of combat and a day off consisting of humping ammo crates and other supplies, or sitting in the infirmary sick with malaria or jungle rot on your feet preventing you from walking, or recovering from a war wound so you can get back into the fight, having a Sunday off must have been a real treat. It also afforded one time to put thoughts to pen and paper and write home to your mother, which Dad did. Oh Mother Dear it begins…

3% of the worlds population, some 85 million people, were dead from direct military action and also by disease and starvation.  The global war which lasted from 1939 to 1945 was over for most but some risk remained for many, including those occupying a defeated country, evidenced by the “if and when I get home” line in Dad’s poem from Japan he wrote to his mother.  But the poem also spoke to the fact the worse was over and things could get back to “normal”, if there is such a thing.

I imagine the poem stayed cherished in my Grandmothers possession, hope for the future that her boy would come home, which eventually came to be.   I’m sure it passed back to Dad after her death, to sit in an old box in the attic with other old photo’s, letters, and mementos; many awards and decorations from his service, as he lived his life. 

The box passed to me at some point after first Dad then Mom died, un-inventoried until my retirement where my initial look revealed a highly faded piece of history, luckily found just before fading into oblivion, now 75 years old.   The 2 pages were folded alone in an envelope so I’m guessing it was sent all by itself. 

After all the suffering and death and hard times it conveyed a lot of information in a short little poem. But mostly it conveyed hope for the future, to be home with family for a Sunday afternoon dinner and dessert cake or pie made by Mom. Heartfelt sentiments from a soldier to his mother in hard times and a fitting tribute to mothers this mothers day.

Oh Mother Dear

I think of you every day, Even though you’re many miles away, And someday before long, I’ll get back where I belong.

If and when I do get home, I’ll settle down and never roam, Be patient, Oh mother Dear, For I hope to be back within a year.

Don’t be worried or filled with fright, For I’m protected even at night. Our number is small, but we post a guard, It isn’t easy Mom, it’s very hard.

It’s hell to work all day, and night too, But in a way you don’t get so blue, We get Saturday and Sunday to rest, It gives us time to think of you, the best.

I’ll never forget the cake and pie too, That can be made by only you. The Sunday dinners I’ll never forget, No one can best them, on that I’d bet.

I hate the thought of being away from you, But someone has this job to do. Being part of the occupation force isn’t fun, But I think it best in the long run.

We just won a war & don’t want another, I’d rather be with you, my mother. It’s for certain we couldn’t loose, So you know the side I would choose.

More on DNA and genealogy

First, if you want to learn about DNA and genealogy an in depth source of information is the International Society Of Genetic Genealogy.

In “Evidence” on this site I discuss levels of proof that evidence leads us to and also that the evidence needs to be taken in totality and it is often the lack of considering all evidence (totality) that incorrect conclusions are drawn. While the DNA test is accurate, in the application of genealogy it is used to compare our DNA to others with the same or similar DNA markers. As such there is no “Scot DNA” or “Ulster DNA” which can put your ancestors in a specific spot at a specific time. Our ancestors migrated west into Europe 25,000 years ago and moved into Scotland in waves after the last ice age, some migrating back east, north, and south over time.

Often DNA is a close match but the person can be removed from consideration in your family tree due to a different surname. It is the DNA match AND surname similarity which provides the higher percentage of a recent common ancestor. As the number of people getting their DNA tested increases, and more corroborating information is shared the value and accuracy of the information will increase.

Many of us in North America look back to our country of origin when researching our roots and identify as “insert country from-American”. But in that country of origin there was also a path of settlement. In The Scots: A Genetic Journey Alistair Moffat (A must read) points out that prior to the migration to the Americas in the 16th century Scotland was the end of the western migration and that migration started after the last ice age and came in waves by several distinct tribes and different societies. I recommend this book as it not only discusses DNA but also covers hunter-gatherer settlement, the development of farming, and also historical languages.

In 10 generations you can have 1024 possible contributors to your DNA and this brings us back only to our ancestors in Scotland. To try to explain where your DNA came from Family Tree breaks it down into your “Origins” as defined by the current nations and “Ancient Origins” as defined by historical society groups in time. My origins show me 59% British (which includes Scotland), 27% Scandinavian, 8% Eastern Europe, and 4% Iberian Peninsula. My ancient break down is 43% Hunter-Gatherer society, 42% Farmer society, and 15% Metal Age Invaders society. The Scots: A Genetic Journey has a nice break down of the Hunter-gatherer, farmer, and metal worker migrations into Scotland and why my DNA shows these roots.

In my last post “the value of Y-DNA” I discussed “Nicholas Hays” whose ancestors genealogy research indicated they were from the Irish Clan “Hayes”. I have since found a site of an ancestor, Curtis Hays, who had DNA done. While his DNA ruled out relation to the Irish Clan he erroneously concludes he was not related to Clan Hay due to his DNA roots (Slav-Kurgen). Reading “The Scots” shows that this DNA is from areas that migrated into England and Scotland.

Further, who he settled with indicates a kith or kin relationship and this was ignored. While Nicholas Hays may not have a very similar DNA to John (or Patrick) Hays (a fact I am not sure of as I haven’t compared them) his settling with Ulster Presbyterians and migrating with them indicates a connection to Clan Hay. I am unsure of his religion but the books handed down at his passing were consistent with Presbyterianism. The saying that birds of a feather flock together is true for humans also. The common spelling of the surname adds to the evidence.

There are 11 listed Hay settlements, 4 in the southern lowlands of Scotland on the Clan map (top). As surnames were being adopted in the 16th century and commonly used often persons would use the Clan name. I have also found several references in 1700 Presbyterian books of the Hays being a part of that religion. My Hays ancestors are buried in a Presbyterian Church grave yard in Greene, TN. The “Hays” families who migrated to VA through PA then on to what is now Greene, TN and across that state and we can reasonably believe that the Ulstermen who migrated originally from the Scottish lowlands and were affiliated with a branch of the Clan Hay which are further back in time affiliated with the Earl of Errol’s Clan Hay.

When your Y-DNA is done it is matched with those similar to you and each person can list an “Earliest Known Ancestor”. I have corresponded with several persons who have claimed their ancestry back to Patrick Hays or John Hays both of whom settled on the Borden Land Grant in Virginia, Circa 1740 and the DNA indicates an 80% chance of a common ancestor in 10 generations, 90% at 12. My research ends at William Hays (8 generations from me) in Greene, TN. and although DNA indicates a relation to either John or Patrick I have not seen any record linking them to William Hays and then to me. The DNA has, however given me direction on where to look for the connection. I am hopeful at some point to get confirmation of the connection from a DNA Cousin.

One person shows the Earliest Known Ancestor as Sir John Hay of Tullibody d. 1418 and another shows William delaHaye (1120-1170) Lothian, Scotland. Again I have no evidence to connect the “Hays” line to William dela Haye. That said, about 1500 years ago “Expansion Clusters” began to form. These were due to increasing wealth and political power of a family offering social selection and breeding advantages and men having children with multiple women over many years. A man with 10 sons who then have ten sons has 100 related men affiliated with his Clan Banner. So while not proven on paper, it is quite possible.

Many people have listed John and Patrick Hays as brothers, and one source states that 7 Hays brothers (including them) arrived in a span of 6 years. It appears the father of the 7 brothers who migrated here, each having a large farm family (as subsequent sons did), created a bit of a DNA Expansion Cluster in America. It is confusing as whole church congregations migrated at the same time with entire families of Hays included with them. The other Hays from various parts of Ulster, many most likely with a common Hay ancestor in Scotland, dispersed across Northern Ireland where opportunity took them for several generations and then clustered together in America where opportunity and a shared belief system brought them together.

I suspect this is the story of the John and Patrick Hays brothers and Nicholas Hays. A Patrick Hays migrated to present day Derry, PA and owned land there. I suspect he was the advance for the rest of his brothers. Patrick and John both took land grants in 1740 in Virginia on the Borden Grant in the Shenandoah Valley which were given to families which “self imported” (paid their own fare over). Nicholas Hays entered as an indentured servant to a tailor in Philadelphia in 1745. From there he migrated to VA. While Patrick Hays returned to PA it appears his, and his brothers ancestors, migrated to Greene, TN which was on the western edge of the new nation. Nicholas was to also migrate there with his family.

The various Hays families participated in the French and Indian Wars and then the Revolutionary War on the side of the Colonials and in fact the Presbyterian Ulstermen (Scotch-Irish as they had come to be called) had few Tories in their ranks. Many were paid in land grants, often on the western front. As the country expanded they expanded also and played a part in history in the formation of Kentucky, Missouri, Kansas, Texas, and all the way to California. Hopefully DNA and the historical record can help us sort out the whose who of the Hays in America.

Call for photo’s and Identify people and places

I’m looking for  Hays-Price-Wilcox photo’s, including period photo’s of locations, for digital storage as part of the Hays history and possibly for restoration.

I’m also looking to positively identify the persons and location in this restored photo.  Indications are it’s from the 1930’s and I suspect it is my father front and center, most likely in Oklahoma.

Regardless of condition you can scan the photo by placing it in the center of your scanner and scan as a TIFF in 600dpi attach it to an email to jimhays@americanman.org with the information on it that you know.  If I decide to get it professionally restored I’ll send you a digital copy of the enhanced photo.  See the Photo Restoration Center web page for information on restorations should you want to send in a photo direct to them for full restoration (and share the restored digital copy with us!).

If you can part with the original (or have duplicates) you can send them to me at 614 Shellstone Rd., Amsterdam NY 12010 (valid address until at least June 2019).

I intend to add the photo’s to the web site AmericanMan.org and memorialize the Hays, and connected families, as part of the American experience.  The more I research the more I am impressed at the contributions we have made to making America.

I also have photo’s of people I do not know and I’ll be posting those as I scan them to see if anyone can identify them or wants the original.

As always, questions, comments, and criticisms can be emailed to me.

 

Different spellings by different Hays, Hayses, & Hayeses

The question I wondered is why do the related Hay, Hays, and Hayes have different spellings?  Is one related to a different faction of the Clan, perhaps changed to denote a different geographical area or religion or loyalty?  My line spells it H-a-y-s and “no e” was the standard response to those who sought to automatically put it in.  It was so often done I now state my name then spell it (Hays-H-A-Y-S), and still many put the “e” in it.  But why different spellings and why the added “e” by many?

First grammar 101 – You plural a name (noun) by adding an s (no apostrophe).  For names ending in s we add an es and for names ending in y we do not change to ies like other nouns and add an s after the y, exceptions to the rule.   To make a name possessive we add the ‘s but here we have another rule exception in that a name ending in s can be made possessive by adding only an after the and both are considered correct.  For example, the Kennedy family are the Kennedys and their home is Kennedy’s house.  The Jones family are the Joneses and their home is Jones’s House or Jones’ House.

And I note for the record I had to look it up and so expect I (and others) often make an error in the standard rules. So Hay, Hays, and Hayes have exceptions to the rules (ending in y or s) which are probably often not followed.  And the rules of grammar as we know them weren’t in place until the 1900’s (the King’s English and Modern English Usage).  Also, levels of education varied greatly from 1700-1900 and although many could read or write it wasn’t at the levels of knowledge we know today, many being educated at grade school levels only into the 1900’s.  So our present day high school education tendency to err on making the surname plural or possessive is greatly increased in prior generations.

I note on the Scottish Clan map that Hay is used for both the highland and lowland (border) branches of the Clan.  But Clan Hay (following today’s grammar rules would be the Hays and Duns Castle would be Hays’ (or Hay’s) Duns Castle.  But absent a written record with todays proper grammar the use of Hays/Hays’/Hayes/Hays’s for both plural and possessive variations of Hay would sound the same.  I surmise that Hays came into common language use with written spellings of Hays and Hayes being used interchangeably for plural and possessive of Clan Hay peoples and places.

While delaHaye was being anglicized into Hay in Scotland there was an Irish Clan “O hAodha” which was anglicized into Hayes (in County Cork O’Hea and Ulster Hughes).  Scotland, Ulster, and Ireland all had migrations to America over time and so we can expect Hay, Hays, Hayes from Scotland; Hays and Hayes from Ulster; and Hayes from Ireland with each recorded with whatever spelling suited the writer to match the spoken.  A good example is U.S. President Rutherford B. Hayes who is listed on the aforementioned Irish Hayes as a famous person but his own genealogy research shows his Hayes ancestors coming to America from Scotland in the 1600’s with no Hays or Hay spelling in the recorded line.

I did find one mention that the spelling “Hays” was used by the Clan Hay who were Presbyterian and migrated to America due to religious strife in the early 1700’s (Ulstermen).  It was told through 3 generations to an author (I lost specific reference in a computer crash) and thus hearsay.  Pennsylvania Genealogies (1886) by William Henry Egle lists (p. 286) the Hay or Hays Family of PA noting Hay, Hays, or Hayes derive from DelaHaye and “The American branch of the family write it Hays, as a general thing.”

The US Census records (1850 and beyond) used in support of my Hays line spell it “H-A-Y-S” with notations they could read and write, and thus provided a proper spelling.  Grave markers give us better support for the spelling as it is “H-A-Y-S” and it is expected that correct spelling would be of utmost importance on these.

I think we can say beyond a reasonable doubt that the Ulstermen John Hays and Patrick Hays (and their relations in PA and VA in the early 1700’s) preferred the spelling “H-A-Y-S”, but there were variations and “H-A-Y-E-S” was used, including by some of their descendants officially.  We have reasonable cause to believe that Ulster Presbyterian Scots used “H-A-Y-S” as a preferred spelling and a suspicion that this may have been used in the lowlands and Ulster to distinguish the Clan Hay Presbyterians.

The title is correct for the plural of Hay, Hays, and Hayes but I note in closing the proper “s” or “es” grammar rules are not often followed even today.  I am learning that most questions of genealogy and history of the Hays opens up two more questions which requires more research to answer.  But it is the journey which is the adventure, nor arriving at the destination.

Jim Hays, an American Man

Jim Hays, an American Man

By Jim Hays

What am I?  Like very kid growing up in America I asked my parents, “what are we” in reference to our country of origin.  Mom’s response was an easy one with a grandfather born in Germany and a grandmother who was first generation American from German parents.  Mom’s German.  But Dad?  “American” he would say, “American mutts”.  Schenectady was mom’s home town, dad was a transplant from out west where his kin still lived.

Over time responding to incessant inquiries Dad spoke a little of his American ancestry.  But the responses were evasive, often couched in humor.  He was from Oklahoma, an “Oakie” but  how the Hays got there, or why, was never discussed.  His dad died when he was a baby and he grew up with his mother and siblings in Texas and on his “Bachelor Uncles” Farm.  Cotton pickers and dirt poor farmers, he said.  The depression, dust bowl, and the flight to California in search of work were little discussed in detail.  There was talk in the family of “high cheek bones and black hair”, speculation of Indian blood.    He did tease, his grandmother “liked to sit on an Indian blanket in front of the cabin” but no specific tribe. What else are we Dad we asked, “We’re a little bit of everything”, “American, American Mutt”, the  reply.  Over the years I would tease a little out of him, but always a bit vague and never in depth.  The “American Mutt” stayed consistent,  “We’re a little bit of everything, American”.

It’s the early 2000’s, a new millennium.  And it occurs to me I don’t know the name of either of my grandfathers much less anything about them.  I never met either of them.  My Dad’s long gone.  And I’ve got some old family photo’s which came to me after mom had her stroke and ended up in the facility.   Who are these people?  Here I sat with her at each visit and pulled as much as I could from her until 2008.  Some names were put to pictures, but her knowledge of the paternal side was mostly what he relayed to her the two sides of my family being on opposite coasts, the west coast unknown to me.

Looking for answers, my research revealed the name hails from the Scottish Clan Hay.  I had my DNA tested and confirmed this and also that I am related to the “Scotch-Irish”, Presbyterian Ulstermen, (most likely from the Scottish borderlands initially) who migrated to America in the early 1700’s due to economic and religious persecution.  I traced my line backwards, NY, CA, TX, OK, TN, VA and see I am 9 or 10 generations removed from the Clan in Scotland.

The history of Clan Hay Scotland starts with the Norman invasion, William delaHaye of Normandy.  In one of my readings it was pointed out that the delaHaye line married 3 Celtic Princesses in a row, thus cementing it as a “Celtic line”.  Interestingly I noted that within 3 generations the Ulstermen who came to America, as did my maternal German line, mixed things up through marriage starting about the third generation.  Just as the Norman became Scottish Hay, so has the Scottish Hay become American Hays.

Dad was right, we’re mutts.  In 5 generations a person has 32 cousins, 1024 in ten, so going backwards ten generations I have 1024 people who (conceivable could have) contributed genes to me and given the paternal line that’s 1024 Americans, most of European descent.   Branch off of my tree along the line and I can probably show relations to the majority of people who landed in America in the early 1700’s as each person in a tree branches to another 1024.  But name and yDNA follows the paternal line, a Hays from a line of Hays across America and back to Ulster and Scotland.

I see heraldry (Coat of Arms) is still controlled in many places but not in America.   I’m sure I didn’t follow all the rules and am not looking to offend, but I made a Roll of Arms (Coat of Arms?) for my fathers American line.  Three red escutcheons on a white escutcheon pay homage to Clan Hay Scotland and my Celtic/Norman paternal roots. Hays came into common usage of my ancestors in Ulster-America (although often misspelled) and the cross reflects their Reformed Christian Faith for which they were persecuted and driven to America. The pine tree, an appeal to heaven, is s symbol of their fight for Liberty in the U.S. from the 1740’s to today (an early American flag). The bear is an homage to my fathers line as the symbol of courage, power and strength.  The Arms sit roadside, announcing a Clan Hays home to one and all.

I seem to have an affinity for my paternal ancestry, the yDNA, and the surname as a large part of “what am I?” and incorporate the Scottish diaspora to America into the symbols used.  The paternal line in Scotland for 800 years does add Scottish to the heritage, distinct to my line due to Ulster Presbyterian also.  But 300 years in America counts a lot.  If pressed I would say I’m an Scottish-American, pressed further, German on my mothers side.   But I am my fathers son so if asked, in homage to him and by birth, I am an American and why I (try) to tell the story of Hays on AmericanMan.org.