Latest update 12-03-2020
The types and math relative to DNA are on the home page. This page will have specific DNA results and any information on current DNA matches and common ancestors. I highly suggest anyone doing genealogy research go to Family Tree DNA and get their YDNA (paternal) tested to compare to the Hays line. I’ve also had my MtDNA (maternal) tested to trace my maternal line back through Europe. I also placed my DNA profile on Geni.com to search for matches. I have had the 67 marker and SNP tests done and my Haplogroup is R-BY3510 Positive SNP’s U152, L2, FGC4220, FGC4183, FGC4166, DF103, BY3510, BY1020.
I received the results of the Big-Y test and my Haplogroup is R-FT115175 which includes R-BY60752, R-BY3510, R-BY1020, R-FGC4166, R-DF103, R-L2, R-U152, R-ZZ11, R-P312, R-L151, R-P310, R-L51, R-L23, R-M269. The R-M269 marker coincides with the arrival of farming and is the most common marker in Europe. It is believed that farming caused an increase in population. My 67 marker test showed me at the R-M269 marker, the 111 test the R-BY3510, to explain the changes in my posted Haplogroup.
The mtDNA test has returned and I am in the H1c1 haplogroup. H1 is the most common haplogroup and includes 14% of Europeans, consistent with the maternal lineage from Germany.
Recommended reading: Trace your roots with DNA: Using genetic tests to explore your family tree by Megan Smolenyak Smolenyak and Ann Turner.
I received this email from Gene Hays regarding my DNA:
I’m glad to see another Hays who has taken the initiative to begin his own DNA research. According to my FTDNA account you and I are an 11/12 match and you actually match my brother perfectly at 12/12. Have you considered testing all 67 markers?
My (and most likely your) Hays ancestors left Ulster Ireland and arrived in the American colonies during the early 1700’s. They were among the”Ulster-Scots.” Looking even further back, prior their migration to Ulster Ireland, my direct Hays/Hay/La Haye (R-L2) lineage thrived in Scotland for nearly 800 years. Their first ancestor to arrive in Scotland came as part of the Norman Conquest, departing from the land of interlocking hedgerows (the La Haye region of Normandy, eventually arriving and settling in Scotland. But, for those of us whose ancestors and their descendants have since then dwelled in Scotland, we can consider ourselves Scottish. After all, if we look deeper into my Y-DNA we will also conclude that for Millenia, prior to their inhabitants in Normandy, my direct paternal ancestors dwelled in the mountains of Northern Italy as the Alpine Celts, and most likely descended from the Western Hallstatt culture around the Black Forest of Switzerland, the place where the highest STR diversity is found for my U152/S28 SNP, which normally indicates that it is a haplotype’s place of origin. So my point is, if you want to travel far enough back through our ancestors migrational path, we would all eventually have to consider ourselves non-European. So as I’ve stated, for nearly 800 years my (our) direct Y-DNA (R-L2) Hays/Hay/La Haye lineage has lived and thrived in Scotland and for some time in Ulster as well. We are therefore of Scottish descent. My Y-DNA Haplogroup is R-L2. My SNP Tests= L2+ M173+ M207+ M269+ M343+ P25+ P312+ U152+
I am a grandson of Edwin James Hay(e)s, b. 25 Dec 1902, Hannibal, MO.
He was the son of of George Dillard Hays, b. 10 Aug 1872, Ralls, MO.
He was the son of Andrew Collins Hays, b. 11 Apr 1835, Monroe, Tennessee.
He was the son of George Campbell Hays, b. 7 Mar 1794, Rockbridge, VA.
He was the son of Charles John Hays, b. 24 Aug 1752, Augusta, VA.
He was the son of Andrew Hays, b. abt 1716, Bangor, Ulster, Ireland.
He was the son of John Hays, b. abt 1674, Scotland
Etc, etc, etc, …
As shown above, I am a direct descendant of the Ulsterman AKA Ulster-Scot, John Hays (1674-1751) who in the year 1715 married Rebecca Buchanan (1680-1752) in the Province of Ulster, Ireland. In 1740 they immigrated from Ulster to Augusta Virginia, along with their adult children. My John & Rebecca Hays built their plantation just two miles north of Rockbridge Baths, where Hays Creek and
Moffett’s Creek ran together. It was there on a natural mill site, that John Hays built the first fulling mill in what later become Rockbridge County (est. 1778). He died in the early part of 1751 leaving a last will & testament. On 29 May 1751, the Augusta justice, William Lusk “ordered that a road be cleared from Hays’ Fulling Mill to Timber Ridge Meeting House” (Timber Ridge Presbyterian Church). Then Moffett’s Creek was changed to Hays Creek and Hays Creek became Walker Creek, thus the original mill site along with the John Hays family settlement, is located on what today is known as Walker Creek, along East Field Road, Route 731.
Military records help prove that the sons and grandsons of John Hays (1674-1751) fought for our freedom in the American War of Independence and in the War of 1812. Another possible Hays cousin that am am currently researching (“John Hays, son of Andrew Hays of Nashville”) may be one of the brave souls who fought and died at the Alamo. The sons, grandsons, and great-grandsons of our John Hays (1674-1751) were many and soon they spread from Virginia to Tennessee and Kentucky, then into Missouri, Iowa and further into the Western United States. As I stated above, I am a direct descendant of this Ulsterman, John Hays. In terms of my genetics (Y-DNA), I am in the R-L2 Haplogroup, as will be all proven direct male descendants of this John Hays (1674-1751).
Any Hay, Hays, or Hayes male who is also a direct descendant of this Ulsterman John Hays (1674-1751), and who has ordered the Y-DNA67 test (and the L2 SNP) from www.FTDNA.com will prove to be of the haplogroup “R-L2” and will also most likely have a value of 13 at DYS492, which is fairly unique for us as non-Frisian descendants. Anyone interested in comparing all 67 markers can visit Family Tree DNA and view the results of three (3) of his direct descendants, all living today. In order to view the DNA test results of these three currently known direct descendants of John & Rebecca Hays (married 1715), visit www.ftdna.com/public/hay and click on the “Y-DNA Results” link. Their kit numbers are 110656, 132481, and N47554. The number of (Ulsterman) John Hays descendants who have joined this DNA research is likely to increase. (Note that Andrew Hays, b. 1716 was one of John & Rebecca Hays’ sons.
Take care James!
Hope to hear from you soon.
Gene Hays
Our Hay/Hays/Hayes Lineage’s Migrational Route:
Alps >Normandy >Scotland >Ulster >Virginia>Tennessee>Missouri>Western USA Genetic Markers: www.ftdna.com/public/hay
Haplogroup = R-L2 (DYS492 = 13)